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| With all the ownable pokemon in the current version, create the best PT party! I wanna know since I have almost all of them (missing dandaloft, welion, termight, proti, mesmablob and maybe others) and I wanna have the best party.
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| At the moment, the strongest Pokemon available are the starters. Spiquill is good defensively, having access to Spikes and stuff. Valkeran is decent but not that good because it outspeeds pretty much anything with its 120 base speed but can't do a lot besides that. Infernox is very nice because of its typing and varied movepool, having access to special moves such as Fly.
Quite logical, all other Pokemon found at this point in the game are rather weak.
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Coronation | 08/01/12 09:45 pm - Last edited 08/01/12 09:46 pm by Coronation | Filter - Reply #3 |
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| There are also other Pokemon that are generally useful, such as Pillage (a defensive tank with many resistances and good attack) and Petraflow (which is one of the best counters to Infernox until Water/Light types like Jelluminous are released, as well as having access to attacks like Ice Beam). However, I will say that there is no 'best team'- no matter how you build a team, where will always be a combination that can beat it. Many teams prepare for as much as possible, but still have weaknesses or coverage gaps. So teams will most likely be partially personalized, with coverage and backup to fill in the gaps.
@TD: Valkeran can also be used to revenge kill Pokemon such as Petraflow, Slagtite, and weakened Nucleor and Cosmite. Valkeran is kinda frail with its various weaknesses as well as having average type coverage, but it can counter some important Pokemon with fast Speed and above average Special Attack. I wish Valkeran had Leech Seed access though...
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| QUOTE: Coronation There are also other Pokemon that are generally useful, such as Pillage (a defensive tank with many resistances and good attack) and Petraflow (which is one of the best counters to Infernox until Water/Light types like Jelluminous are released, as well as having access to attacks like Ice Beam). However, I will say that there is no 'best team'- no matter how you build a team, where will always be a combination that can beat it. Many teams prepare for as much as possible, but still have weaknesses or coverage gaps. So teams will most likely be partially personalized, with coverage and backup to fill in the gaps.
@TD: Valkeran can also be used to revenge kill Pokemon such as Petraflow, Slagtite, and weakened Nucleor and Cosmite. Valkeran is kinda frail with its various weaknesses as well as having average type coverage, but it can counter some important Pokemon with fast Speed and above average Special Attack. I wish Valkeran had Leech Seed access though...
Yeah, u are right. So I guess my best team would be this one: Infernox, Sququil, Valkeran, Mechasnap, Pillage...... and I don't know who to put on the remaining 2 spots. Maybe u can help!
@poepoe Please don't spam. Lileef alone even at 150 can't beat my Infernox at lvl 55. Did u mean a 100% Lileef party is the best?! |
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Coronation | 08/02/12 06:59 am - Last edited 08/02/12 07:01 am by Coronation | Filter - Reply #6 |
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| Using Pillage, Mechasnap, and Valkeran on the same team would be a bad idea. Not only does that give you a triple weakness to Fire (which makes your team very vulnerable to an Infernox sweep), Mechasnap doesn't assist your team at all since Pillage already picks off Pokemon such as Slagtite and Caribuck with Flash Cannon. Mechasnap should be used when you don't have a Steel type but your team lacks Speed instead of Defense, while Pillage is good if you're lacking crucial resistances and need something bulky. I recommend developing your team further and dropping one of those Pokemon depending on what you need. |
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| QUOTE: Coronation Using Pillage, Mechasnap, and Valkeran on the same team would be a bad idea. Not only does that give you a triple weakness to Fire (which makes your team very vulnerable to an Infernox sweep), Mechasnap doesn't assist your team at all since Pillage already picks off Pokemon such as Slagtite and Caribuck with Flash Cannon. Mechasnap should be used when you don't have a Steel type but your team lacks Speed instead of Defense, while Pillage is good if you're lacking crucial resistances and need something bulky. I recommend developing your team further and dropping one of those Pokemon depending on what you need.
Ok. So my party should be Shusk, Infernox, Squiquil, Pillage, Shiny Slagtite (gonna evolve Dribbik), Valkeran (or shouldn't he be included?) and... who else would fit? Would Triantuslash be a good choice? |
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| Missing Seuiquil but my team is strong with Infernox, Valkeran and Reagle
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| QUOTE: pokemontwilight_fan QUOTE: Coronation Using Pillage, Mechasnap, and Valkeran on the same team would be a bad idea. Not only does that give you a triple weakness to Fire (which makes your team very vulnerable to an Infernox sweep), Mechasnap doesn't assist your team at all since Pillage already picks off Pokemon such as Slagtite and Caribuck with Flash Cannon. Mechasnap should be used when you don't have a Steel type but your team lacks Speed instead of Defense, while Pillage is good if you're lacking crucial resistances and need something bulky. I recommend developing your team further and dropping one of those Pokemon depending on what you need.
Ok. So my party should be Shusk, Infernox, Squiquil, Pillage, Shiny Slagtite (gonna evolve Dribbik), Valkeran (or shouldn't he be included?) and... who else would fit? Would Triantuslash be a good choice?
Don't include Valkeran and Shusk on the same team - they pretty much get the same things. Shusk is more defensive with a useful Fighting (and Normal) immunity and can take on Electric types better, so you really don't need Valkeran if you're using Shusk. I'd recommend something that has good speed for your team. Reagle would work, since it can also give your team a Ground Immunity. If you do this, you should get something with a Rock resistance as your seventh.
QUOTE: CD20 Missing Seuiquil but my team is strong with Infernox, Valkeran and Reagle
Your offense is there, but you'll need some more defense. As it stands, your entire team is weak to Rock, and none of your Pokemon can really take a strong hit. You'd need to develop it a little more for me to give a suggestion though. |
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| QUOTE: Coronation QUOTE: pokemontwilight_fan QUOTE: Coronation Using Pillage, Mechasnap, and Valkeran on the same team would be a bad idea. Not only does that give you a triple weakness to Fire (which makes your team very vulnerable to an Infernox sweep), Mechasnap doesn't assist your team at all since Pillage already picks off Pokemon such as Slagtite and Caribuck with Flash Cannon. Mechasnap should be used when you don't have a Steel type but your team lacks Speed instead of Defense, while Pillage is good if you're lacking crucial resistances and need something bulky. I recommend developing your team further and dropping one of those Pokemon depending on what you need.
Ok. So my party should be Shusk, Infernox, Squiquil, Pillage, Shiny Slagtite (gonna evolve Dribbik), Valkeran (or shouldn't he be included?) and... who else would fit? Would Triantuslash be a good choice?
Don't include Valkeran and Shusk on the same team - they pretty much get the same things. Shusk is more defensive with a useful Fighting (and Normal) immunity and can take on Electric types better, so you really don't need Valkeran if you're using Shusk. I'd recommend something that has good speed for your team. Reagle would work, since it can also give your team a Ground Immunity. If you do this, you should get something with a Rock resistance as your seventh.
QUOTE: CD20 Missing Seuiquil but my team is strong with Infernox, Valkeran and Reagle
Your offense is there, but you'll need some more defense. As it stands, your entire team is weak to Rock, and none of your Pokemon can really take a strong hit. You'd need to develop it a little more for me to give a suggestion though.
Squiquil can win against a rock type. Maybe adding Junzu won't be a bad idea. He is good against rock types. |
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| Valkeran is ok on the same team with Shusk, and you have Infernox to support this. Infernox takes out two of their main weaknesses instantly. Slagite takes out another weakness. Just add a psychic pokemon and you'll have eliminated all weaknesses (besides Shushk's weakness to ghost and dark). Psychic shares a common weakness with grass, so again, Infernox compensates for its weakness. You pretty much just nead a psychic pokemon and thats it. Pillage is useless, since it's strong against grass and psychic, so Shusk and Infernox are strong against the same things. Pillage can be replaced with a fighting type to fight normal type pokemon. |
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| QUOTE: pokemontwilight_fan QUOTE: Coronation QUOTE: pokemontwilight_fan QUOTE: Coronation Using Pillage, Mechasnap, and Valkeran on the same team would be a bad idea. Not only does that give you a triple weakness to Fire (which makes your team very vulnerable to an Infernox sweep), Mechasnap doesn't assist your team at all since Pillage already picks off Pokemon such as Slagtite and Caribuck with Flash Cannon. Mechasnap should be used when you don't have a Steel type but your team lacks Speed instead of Defense, while Pillage is good if you're lacking crucial resistances and need something bulky. I recommend developing your team further and dropping one of those Pokemon depending on what you need.
Ok. So my party should be Shusk, Infernox, Squiquil, Pillage, Shiny Slagtite (gonna evolve Dribbik), Valkeran (or shouldn't he be included?) and... who else would fit? Would Triantuslash be a good choice?
Don't include Valkeran and Shusk on the same team - they pretty much get the same things. Shusk is more defensive with a useful Fighting (and Normal) immunity and can take on Electric types better, so you really don't need Valkeran if you're using Shusk. I'd recommend something that has good speed for your team. Reagle would work, since it can also give your team a Ground Immunity. If you do this, you should get something with a Rock resistance as your seventh.
QUOTE: CD20 Missing Seuiquil but my team is strong with Infernox, Valkeran and Reagle
Your offense is there, but you'll need some more defense. As it stands, your entire team is weak to Rock, and none of your Pokemon can really take a strong hit. You'd need to develop it a little more for me to give a suggestion though.
Squiquil can win against a rock type. Maybe adding Junzu won't be a bad idea. He is good against rock types.
It can because the rock Pokemon you find now are wild Pokemon. Once competitive battling is in, Spiquill won't be able to defeat Sp. Def. trained Slagtite easily for example. |
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| Coronation, ive got a strong Stritus too so my team isnt that weak to Rock but im aiming to add Squiquil to my team somehow, would trade my Valkeran for a Squiquil easy. Needa strengthen my team too |
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| QUOTE: TwilightDusk QUOTE: pokemontwilight_fan QUOTE: Coronation QUOTE: pokemontwilight_fan QUOTE: Coronation Using Pillage, Mechasnap, and Valkeran on the same team would be a bad idea. Not only does that give you a triple weakness to Fire (which makes your team very vulnerable to an Infernox sweep), Mechasnap doesn't assist your team at all since Pillage already picks off Pokemon such as Slagtite and Caribuck with Flash Cannon. Mechasnap should be used when you don't have a Steel type but your team lacks Speed instead of Defense, while Pillage is good if you're lacking crucial resistances and need something bulky. I recommend developing your team further and dropping one of those Pokemon depending on what you need.
Ok. So my party should be Shusk, Infernox, Squiquil, Pillage, Shiny Slagtite (gonna evolve Dribbik), Valkeran (or shouldn't he be included?) and... who else would fit? Would Triantuslash be a good choice?
Don't include Valkeran and Shusk on the same team - they pretty much get the same things. Shusk is more defensive with a useful Fighting (and Normal) immunity and can take on Electric types better, so you really don't need Valkeran if you're using Shusk. I'd recommend something that has good speed for your team. Reagle would work, since it can also give your team a Ground Immunity. If you do this, you should get something with a Rock resistance as your seventh.
QUOTE: CD20 Missing Seuiquil but my team is strong with Infernox, Valkeran and Reagle
Your offense is there, but you'll need some more defense. As it stands, your entire team is weak to Rock, and none of your Pokemon can really take a strong hit. You'd need to develop it a little more for me to give a suggestion though.
Squiquil can win against a rock type. Maybe adding Junzu won't be a bad idea. He is good against rock types.
It can because the rock Pokemon you find now are wild Pokemon. Once competitive battling is in, Spiquill won't be able to defeat Sp. Def. trained Slagtite easily for example.
Junzu would also defeat Normal types easily. |
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Coronation | 08/03/12 05:36 pm - Last edited 08/03/12 05:38 pm by Coronation | Filter - Reply #15 |
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| QUOTE: Clicky Valkeran is ok on the same team with Shusk, and you have Infernox to support this. Infernox takes out two of their main weaknesses instantly. Slagite takes out another weakness. Just add a psychic pokemon and you'll have eliminated all weaknesses (besides Shushk's weakness to ghost and dark). Psychic shares a common weakness with grass, so again, Infernox compensates for its weakness. You pretty much just nead a psychic pokemon and thats it. Pillage is useless, since it's strong against grass and psychic, so Shusk and Infernox are strong against the same things. Pillage can be replaced with a fighting type to fight normal type pokemon.
Yes, Infernox is very synergetic with Valkeran and Shusk, but that's no excuse to run both on the same team. Both Shusk and Valkeran counter Water and Rock types, with Shusk being able to take Electric types and Valkeran being able to revenge kill weakened Pokemon better. Running both is not a good idea because you'll be compounding unnecessary weaknesses. Just because Infernox can take on Ice types and tank Fire attacks is pretty irrelevant, because as soon as it faints, your team's defenses will begin to fall apart. Adding a Psychic type gives you two Pokemon with Ghost and Dark weaknesses, which isn't really smart if all you're trying to do is resist Fighting. Pillage is not on the team for its power, but for its resistances to many dangerous offensive typings such as Ice and Dragon as well as its Poison immunity and Ghost resist. Both offense and defense matter when building a team, and relying on a single Pokemon to keep the team balanced simply isn't a good idea, especially when said Pokemon is offensive. |
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| Marog, Valkeran, Hartoom, Stritus, Astroidus, Diabra and Nucleor was my old team, anyone wanna give a little critique on it?
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| Hartoom is a little redundant because you already have Valkeran, looks pretty balanced to me besides that. |
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| I have to say, reading through this, Coronation's going to be completely owning us at competitive battling with his knowledge of the PT Pokemon (never mind the fact his Pokemon are probably all around level 150 by now).
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Coronation | 08/04/12 01:38 am - Last edited 08/04/12 01:38 am by Coronation | Filter - Reply #19 |
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| QUOTE: ICEBURG Marog, Valkeran, Hartoom, Stritus, Astroidus, Diabra and Nucleor was my old team, anyone wanna give a little critique on it?
Four of your Pokemon are weak to Ground, which is asking for a Worgeddon sweep. Even though Stritus and Cosmite can defeat it, it is still something that should be addressed, especially because both of the resistors (Valkeran and Hartoom) can be defeated by Worgeddon's Bug Bite or any Infernox. I agree with TD in that Hartoom and Valkeran are redundant, and I would recommend replacing one of them. I personally think that too many of your Pokemon lack viable resistances, so it's vulnerable to attacks such as Infernoxs Eruption, Voyant's Psychic, and Petraflow's Ice Beam and Bubblebeam. |
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